i know there's a lot of energy over the last couple of years and anger about the president, his plans and all that. now is the time for them to say, okay, he is our president. >> rose: right. >> there is no question on his validity. there's no question about -- and he wants to work with people. that is his nature. it truly is in spite of what may be said in the campaign. the business community has to come together and say okay, we may disagree but there are a whole host of things. like immigration. i know the business community, chamber of commerce, whole bunch of others who are historically republican are very much desirous to help the economy but getting real immigration reform. let's push it, work with the president, come into the president, come into the administration and say look, okay, you won. we didn't like it, we don't like it but let's work together. i think the business community has got to have that attitude and not just hope and pray as they did the last year and a half, many of them, that he wouldn't get reelected. well, that didn't work so well. >> rose: (laughs) no, i